\nI actually have Gig Harbor, Summit and Central Valley (the unlisted #6 team) near dead-even.
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\nProjected speed ratings -
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\n200\tTristan Peloquin\t12\tGig Harbor WA
\n185\tMichael Hammer\t12\tGig Harbor WA
\n179\tRyan Gregory\t11\tGig Harbor WA
\n176\tJack Shields\t10\tGig Harbor WA
\n169\tJake Quincey\t12\tGig Harbor WA
\n163\tCharlie Carpenter\t12\tGig Harbor WA
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\n204\tMatthew Maton\t12\tSummit OR
\n181\tAlex Martin\t11\tSummit OR
\n180\tTyler Jones\t12\tSummit OR
\n173\tChris Merlos\t12\tSummit OR
\n173\tMatthew Sjogren\t12\tSummit OR
\n171\tGrant Parton\t12\tSummit OR
\n158\tBenjamin Wasserman\t11\tSummit OR
\n
\n184\tBriton Demars\t12\tCentral Valley WA
\n181\tSpencer Jensen\t12\tCentral Valley WA
\n176\tCaleb Nicholls\t12\tCentral Valley WA
\n176\tColton Pegram\t12\tCentral Valley WA
\n176\tStephen Heintz\t12\tCentral Valley WA
\n160\tMichael Nall\t11\tCentral Valley WA
\n
\n
\nSummary -
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\nThe difference at #1 between GH\/Summit is a wash - would only be a couple points difference. That is obviously where CV is hurting (in comparison).
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\nThe difference at #2 and #4 between GH and Summit is important - yes, moreso than the difference at #5 in elite fields (whether the actual NXN-NW field is deeper at the #3 or #4 or #5 spot is yet to be seen).
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\nI wouldn't be surprised if Central Valley won state, and Summit beat Gig Harbor at some meet through the course of the year, then have those three finish in any order at NXN-NW.
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\n(you could also argue that, given Gig Harbor's stronger tradition, they deserve the nod in case of a hypothetical "tie")
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\nBy the way, the battle for girls #4-6 spots is similarly fierce (the #6 team being Bellarmine Prep)
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\nThanks for posting those speed ratings. Sometimes when the teams are potentially so close in terms of points it's difficult for me to remember others "see" things different than me or do speed ratings different. But now that I see your ratings and your reasoning written out I get it. I do have Summit and Central Valley and Eastlake ahead of Gig Harbor, but like you it's very, VERY close. If you have the time and desire to post speed ratings of the top 3 teams I'd love to see them too. Thanks.","date_added":"Aug 26th 2014, 12:14am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":276451,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"DontStopPre","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=45158","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=45158","pb_wally_id":"1182171"},"1108432":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1108432","comment_id":"1108432","member_id":"43715","comment":"
<\/a>DontStopPre, on , said:<\/p>\nI think Gig Harbor is ranked too high (but I do agree with the other four teams and the order). Who do you have as Gig Harbor's #5 runner to rank them above Summit and other quality teans? Do you simply believe a #5 will emerge or are you using data from a #5 man? Even their #3 and #4 runners have more "potential" than experience. I would not be shocked if Gig Harbor ENDS UP as the 4th best NW team given their athletes, coach and track record but for now I see them as two very good runners, two runners that could potentially become good soon, then a bunch of question marks.
\nEDIT: It's not my intention to come across as critical towards Gig Harbor,in case any athletes or parent reads this. They will have yet another good season. I just don't know if I would rank them in the top 5 of what could be the NW Region's best year ever in terms of depth.
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\nI actually have Gig Harbor, Summit and Central Valley (the unlisted #6 team) near dead-even.
\n
\nProjected speed ratings -
\n
\n200\tTristan Peloquin\t12\tGig Harbor WA
\n185\tMichael Hammer\t12\tGig Harbor WA
\n179\tRyan Gregory\t11\tGig Harbor WA
\n176\tJack Shields\t10\tGig Harbor WA
\n169\tJake Quincey\t12\tGig Harbor WA
\n163\tCharlie Carpenter\t12\tGig Harbor WA
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\n204\tMatthew Maton\t12\tSummit OR
\n181\tAlex Martin\t11\tSummit OR
\n180\tTyler Jones\t12\tSummit OR
\n173\tChris Merlos\t12\tSummit OR
\n173\tMatthew Sjogren\t12\tSummit OR
\n171\tGrant Parton\t12\tSummit OR
\n158\tBenjamin Wasserman\t11\tSummit OR
\n
\n184\tBriton Demars\t12\tCentral Valley WA
\n181\tSpencer Jensen\t12\tCentral Valley WA
\n176\tCaleb Nicholls\t12\tCentral Valley WA
\n176\tColton Pegram\t12\tCentral Valley WA
\n176\tStephen Heintz\t12\tCentral Valley WA
\n160\tMichael Nall\t11\tCentral Valley WA
\n
\n
\nSummary -
\n
\nThe difference at #1 between GH\/Summit is a wash - would only be a couple points difference. That is obviously where CV is hurting (in comparison).
\n
\nThe difference at #2 and #4 between GH and Summit is important - yes, moreso than the difference at #5 in elite fields (whether the actual NXN-NW field is deeper at the #3 or #4 or #5 spot is yet to be seen).
\n
\nI wouldn't be surprised if Central Valley won state, and Summit beat Gig Harbor at some meet through the course of the year, then have those three finish in any order at NXN-NW.
\n
\n(you could also argue that, given Gig Harbor's stronger tradition, they deserve the nod in case of a hypothetical "tie")
\n
\nBy the way, the battle for girls #4-6 spots is similarly fierce (the #6 team being Bellarmine Prep)","date_added":"Aug 25th 2014, 10:41pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":276451,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"1108412":{"pb_id":"45158","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1108412","comment_id":"1108412","member_id":"45158","comment":"I think Gig Harbor is ranked too high (but I do agree with the other four teams and the order). Who do you have as Gig Harbor's #5 runner to rank them above Summit and other quality teans? Do you simply believe a #5 will emerge or are you using data from a #5 man? Even their #3 and #4 runners have more "potential" than experience. I would not be shocked if Gig Harbor ENDS UP as the 4th best NW team given their athletes, coach and track record but for now I see them as two very good runners, two runners that could potentially become good soon, then a bunch of question marks.
\nEDIT: It's not my intention to come across as critical towards Gig Harbor,in case any athletes or parent reads this. They will have yet another good season. I just don't know if I would rank them in the top 5 of what could be the NW Region's best year ever in terms of depth.","date_added":"Aug 25th 2014, 9:53pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":276451,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"DontStopPre","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=45158","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=45158","pb_wally_id":"1182171"}},"last_id":"1108412","url":"comments.php?item_type=news&item_id=276451&item_url=gprofile.php?mgroup_id=46052"}