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<\/a>dkap, on , said:<\/p>

\nThat attitude would make the coach extremely unpopular with the Athletic Director.
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\nDan
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\nYeah, I agree... while I would be upset if I was the coach and much moreso if I was on the team, but as a coach I wouldn't hold it against the kid - post season meets like these are post season meets (as a teammate I might have a different opinion), and as far as the school is concerned the season ends at the state meet; anything past that is up to the team and the kids to do.","date_added":"Nov 8th 2014, 7:46am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"1164705":{"pb_id":"9184","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1164705","comment_id":"1164705","member_id":"9184","comment":"

<\/a>cerutty fan, on , said:<\/p>

\nIt's called post-season, sure, but for any nationally ranked team it ought to be called The Season. Regular season is just to tune-up for the "post-season". It's when a team is supposed to really come together, not go it's separate ways. If watchout is right and Summit actually IS a top-5 team in the nation I would be livid if I were the coach of that team and he decided to go to Footlocker. He would be persona non grata at that point. Run track on your own without your team and see how that goes.
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\nThat attitude would make the coach extremely unpopular with the Athletic Director.
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\nDan","date_added":"Nov 8th 2014, 6:39am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"members\/avatar\/3295.jpg","pb_title":"dkap","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=9184","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/dkap.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"10044"},"1164676":{"pb_id":"50627","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1164676","comment_id":"1164676","member_id":"50627","comment":"

<\/a>Bill Meylan, on , said:<\/p>

\nI would love to see Fisher run both Footlocker and NXN ... Fisher was dominant in both XC and track last year ... He looks great again this season, so any crowning of "The National Champion" would seem to go through Grant Fisher ... If Fisher only runs Footlocker and wins again, I believe the majority of the country will consider him "the best".
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\nPerhaps an unpopular opinion amongst coaches ... This is post-season ... This is the time the individual can (and should) do what they desire and\/or do what is best for them personally ... That's my own opinion .... In the case of Matt Maton, if he runs NXN Northwest and helps Summit qualify for NXN Nationals, then he did a great deal for his team ... Summit has a chance to qualify without Maton, but their chances are much better with him ... I doubt his teammates will be unhappy with Maton if he then decides to run Footlocker (assuming Summit qualified with Maton running NXN Northwest) ... I also wouldn't be surprised if Maton made it known to his team early in the season that he was planning to run Footlocker (no matter what ... just a guess).
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\nIt's called post-season, sure, but for any nationally ranked team it ought to be called The Season. Regular season is just to tune-up for the "post-season". It's when a team is supposed to really come together, not go it's separate ways. If watchout is right and Summit actually IS a top-5 team in the nation I would be livid if I were the coach of that team and he decided to go to Footlocker. He would be persona non grata at that point. Run track on your own without your team and see how that goes.","date_added":"Nov 8th 2014, 2:27am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"cerutty fan","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=50627","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=50627","pb_wally_id":"1212787"},"1164589":{"pb_id":"9184","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1164589","comment_id":"1164589","member_id":"9184","comment":"

<\/a>loverubber, on , said:<\/p>

\nAs do I. If Matt Maton doesn't run, this could be a great opportunity for Summit XC to prove to the nation that you don't need a champion to have success as a team.
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\nTheir girls once again dominated the State meet with last year's #1 sidelined, and two years ago surprised many people to win with 1 or 2 girls held out for disciplinary reasons, so I suspect it's a [stepping up] scenario they're not uncomfortable with.
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\nDan","date_added":"Nov 7th 2014, 10:25pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"members\/avatar\/3295.jpg","pb_title":"dkap","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=9184","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/dkap.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"10044"},"1164563":{"pb_id":"43664","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1164563","comment_id":"1164563","member_id":"43664","comment":"

<\/a>Bill Meylan, on , said:<\/p>

\nI also wouldn't be surprised if Maton made it known to his team early in the season that he was planning to run Footlocker (no matter what ... just a guess).
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\nI suspect this is true. I also agree with what palimmer said as well. I am hopeful if Maton does not run NXR that Summit is still able to advance.","date_added":"Nov 7th 2014, 8:56pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"hayward102","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43664","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43664","pb_wally_id":"1073473"},"1164583":{"pb_id":"71220","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"1164563","pid":"1164583","comment_id":"1164583","member_id":"71220","comment":"As do I. If Matt Maton doesn't run, this could be a great opportunity for Summit XC to prove to the nation that you don't need a champion to have success as a team.","date_added":"Nov 7th 2014, 9:29pm","nest":1,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"loverubber","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=71220","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/loverubber.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1563982"},"1164560":{"pb_id":"43675","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1164560","comment_id":"1164560","member_id":"43675","comment":"

<\/a>watchout, on , said:<\/p>

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\n... I think (hope) it's mostly #3 - which would be moot if Fisher threw his hat in the ring and ran both meets like Verzbicas did - but, hey, it's not my decision to make. I felt the same way with the McGorty situation a couple years ago, but at least then he WANTED to run NXN (he was trying to qualify for both, and almost did). It's an unfortunate time when the talent is split between two meets, and even moreso in cases like this when an individual is putting themselves ahead of their teammates.
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\nI would love to see Fisher run both Footlocker and NXN ... Fisher was dominant in both XC and track last year ... He looks great again this season, so any crowning of "The National Champion" would seem to go through Grant Fisher ... If Fisher only runs Footlocker and wins again, I believe the majority of the country will consider him "the best".
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\nPerhaps an unpopular opinion amongst coaches ... This is post-season ... This is the time the individual can (and should) do what they desire and\/or do what is best for them personally ... That's my own opinion .... In the case of Matt Maton, if he runs NXN Northwest and helps Summit qualify for NXN Nationals, then he did a great deal for his team ... Summit has a chance to qualify without Maton, but their chances are much better with him ... I doubt his teammates will be unhappy with Maton if he then decides to run Footlocker (assuming Summit qualified with Maton running NXN Northwest) ... I also wouldn't be surprised if Maton made it known to his team early in the season that he was planning to run Footlocker (no matter what ... just a guess).","date_added":"Nov 7th 2014, 8:40pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Bill Meylan","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43675","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Bill-Meylan.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1073444"},"1163906":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1163906","comment_id":"1163906","member_id":"43715","comment":"

<\/a>palimmer, on , said:<\/p>

\nMaybe it's just me but I find it difficult to fathom why or how an athlete will abandon his team for personal glory. ..but it isn't even that as NXN presents an opportunity for personal glory
\nas well as team accomplishments....does he not think that his team mates have had something to do with his i ndividual successes?
\nPL
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\nI agree. Only four possibilities I can think of is that:
\n1. He had a bad experience at NXN last time (he fell down and was trampled, maybe even got a minor concussion, in the slop in '12)
\n2. He believes that FLN is not only more prestigious, but so much more prestigious that it isn't worth it to run with his team
\n3. He wants to race Fisher again, and believes Fisher is only going to run FLN (though Fisher is lucky enough that he CAN run both meets and actually be THE national champion if he was to do so and win both)
\n4. He wants to go on vacation in Southern California
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\nI think (hope) it's mostly #3 - which would be moot if Fisher threw his hat in the ring and ran both meets like Verzbicas did - but, hey, it's not my decision to make. I felt the same way with the McGorty situation a couple years ago, but at least then he WANTED to run NXN (he was trying to qualify for both, and almost did). It's an unfortunate time when the talent is split between two meets, and even moreso in cases like this when an individual is putting themselves ahead of their teammates.","date_added":"Nov 7th 2014, 7:21pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"1163897":{"pb_id":"3357","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1163897","comment_id":"1163897","member_id":"3357","comment":"Maybe it's just me but I find it difficult to fathom why or how an athlete will abandon his team for personal glory. ..but it isn't even that as NXN presents an opportunity for personal glory
\nas well as team accomplishments....does he not think that his team mates have had something to do with his i ndividual successes?
\nPL","date_added":"Nov 7th 2014, 7:13pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.gif","pb_title":"palimmer","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=3357","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/palimmer.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"4758"},"1163451":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1163451","comment_id":"1163451","member_id":"43715","comment":"

<\/a>hayward102, on , said:<\/p>

\nThese two interviews do not mention NXR in conjunction with Maton and both do state that he is planning to run footlocker which eliminates NXN. I think it's unfortunate if that is how it turns out, but it's obviously his decision to make.
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\nhttp:\/\/oregon-cross-...video_id=126402<\/a>
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\nhttp:\/\/oregon-cross-...video_id=126387<\/a>
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\nSummit would obviously lose a front-runner but still has a solid pack behind him. Watchout, where do you think they would be without Maton? I know straight time comparisons aren't the best between races, but if you plug their times in to the 6A race they win even without Maton. I'm not saying that's how it would have played out, but it does show they would have been competitive in that field without him.
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\nWith Maton, they have a significant lead as NW#1 and are a US Top-5 team.
\nWithout Maton, they are still in the mix for NW#1 but the gap is potentially very small with CC and NC (and possibly others) nipping at their heels.
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\nThe rankings will continue to include Maton, as he raced at the state meet, regardless of whether he is on their NXR squad. It's a shame if he really doesn't run with the rest of his team.","date_added":"Nov 7th 2014, 1:00am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"1163339":{"pb_id":"43664","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1163339","comment_id":"1163339","member_id":"43664","comment":"

<\/a>TheDarkKnight278, on , said:<\/p>

\nObviously these rankings include Maton running with Summit this year. Is there any word on if he will be running with Summit at NXR this year or will be competing elsewhere?
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\nThese two interviews do not mention NXR in conjunction with Maton and both do state that he is planning to run footlocker which eliminates NXN. I think it's unfortunate if that is how it turns out, but it's obviously his decision to make.
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\nhttp:\/\/oregon-cross-...video_id=126402<\/a>
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\nhttp:\/\/oregon-cross-...video_id=126387<\/a>
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\nSummit would obviously lose a front-runner but still has a solid pack behind him. Watchout, where do you think they would be without Maton? I know straight time comparisons aren't the best between races, but if you plug their times in to the 6A race they win even without Maton. I'm not saying that's how it would have played out, but it does show they would have been competitive in that field without him.","date_added":"Nov 6th 2014, 9:21pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"hayward102","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43664","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43664","pb_wally_id":"1073473"},"1163440":{"pb_id":"71220","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"1163339","pid":"1163440","comment_id":"1163440","member_id":"71220","comment":"Yes, Summit will be without Maton at regionals. But then again, they certainly could have still topped 6A without him. These rankings are, thereby, accurate.","date_added":"Nov 7th 2014, 12:21am","nest":1,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"loverubber","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=71220","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/loverubber.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1563982"},"1163310":{"pb_id":"65314","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1163310","comment_id":"1163310","member_id":"65314","comment":"Obviously these rankings include Maton running with Summit this year. Is there any word on if he will be running with Summit at NXR this year or will be competing elsewhere?","date_added":"Nov 6th 2014, 7:49pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-65314.png","pb_title":"TheDarkKnight278","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=65314","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/TheDarkKnight278.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1452319"},"1163444":{"pb_id":"71220","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"1163310","pid":"1163444","comment_id":"1163444","member_id":"71220","comment":"Yes, he will be absent running at Footlocker.","date_added":"Nov 7th 2014, 12:15am","nest":1,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":297456,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"loverubber","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=71220","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/loverubber.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1563982"}},"last_id":"1163310","url":"comments.php?item_type=news&item_id=297456&item_url=gprofile.php?mgroup_id=46052"}